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i completely agree with both articles. but keep in mind that there are people listen to music for entertainment value only. just because the lyrics could have been written by a 6th grader doesn’t mean the song can’t be fun to listen to.

To a point I will agree as well. I think fame and stardom drive as many into the profession as money does. Brittney Spears is a good example of that. I really don’t think she’s so much interested in music as an art as she is in being an entertainer and being in the spotlight.
But, at the same time, we all have different tastes and you might say the same thing about my Black Flag playlist and wonder how I can listen to that crap.
Its all subjective.

Black Flag is fine, as they, as far as I’ve heard, make music in terms of what I said in the post above. I listen to stuff most people wouldn’t call music, but like you said, it’s subjective, and you’re right. As long as it has some meaning, I won’t call you an idiot for listening to some words with no substantial meaning being sung.

I agree entirely. I can relate almost any song to my life, in one one way or another, and find very little entertainment in songs with no meaning. While some songs are just fun to listen to, as Cameron stated, after hearing them, I find myself searching through CDs and radio stations for something with a deeper meaning. Unfortunately, the radio often brings only disappointment with a catchy tune. Reid has really gotten me into Tool lately which I find to have a great deal of hidden meaning. I love the way they portray their ideas… very creative to say the least.

I agree— A catchy tune can be fun to listen to… fooooor about two seconds. Take “Who Let the Dogs Out” by the Baha Men, for instance: catchy for about 10 seconds, until you here “who let the dogs out” for the eighteenth time…

the only way to be a successful musician is to know the business part of music. once you start making records, there are tons of other people with the same musical skills; competition provided in such situation, especially the capitalistic nature of it, i think musicians are forced to do what their advisor tells them to. of course, morally, that’s not what you are suppose to do, but we humans always set ideal goals….

“Who Let the Dogs Out” was far from moral… or human…

I listen to wordless music… Music itself is a story, it really allows your mind to be free and imagine anything you want. Take Samuel Barber for example. He’s a genius composer. How could someone listen to Adagio for Strings and NOT feel any type of sub-conscience spiritual movement! I could listen to it for hours and just be in total relaxation and yeah, but anyway my point being I totally agree with mainstream audio like on the radio, just over rated. Words to songs are cool, but I find myself listening closer to the music than the lyrics. Hence why I listen to good melodic electronica. It gets you movin’!

Being a musician and composer myself, I hate listening to Britney Spears and P. Diddy getting rich off of crappy music where most of the words consist of “yeah” and “uh huh”.

I listen to all sorts of music, soft rock, christian rock, jazz, screamo, hardcore, metal, be crazy and yell a lot with wailing guitars, etc…and I think they all have different parts about them that make them great to listen to.

Now, I’m not into Tool (don’t kill me) and bands like that, but I still appreciate their musical talents and efforts.

Don’t forget, it’s all about the grassroots baby.

I’m not the Tool fanboy, that’s Reid ;)

Is it me, or does love just plain saturate Pop. music entirely? It’s an important emotion and concept, but come on, there are a lot of other things to sing about.

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